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Leaf Air-Cooling Flaw and Fossil Fuel Conspiracies Define EV Debate

Science & ResearchApr 18, 2026score 1.353 posts · 10 replies across 3 instances
Older hybrid vehicles, specifically the 2012 Honda Insight and early Prius models, are cited by owners like @mark and @User47 as maintaining significant battery health (above 80% capacity) years after initial warnings suggested otherwise. Debate rages over EV reliability: @chris suggests anti-EV sentiment is orchestrated by fossil fuel interests. Conversely, @DavidM_yeg warns that the entire clean energy sector, from solar to EVs, suffers from industry shilling. A critical technical distinction was made by @qole, noting that air-cooled, non-Tesla EVs like the Nissan LEAFs suffer demonstrably worse battery life than their liquid-cooled counterparts. The community consensus fragments. While some owners prove long-term hybrid durability (@mark), skepticism remains high regarding systemic flaws. The primary fault lines are the inherent technical risk of thermal runaway (@PhilipCJames) versus the economic/industrial skepticism surrounding the entire green energy pivot (@DavidM_yeg).

Key points

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Older, liquid-cooled EVs outperform air-cooled models significantly.
Air-cooled non-Tesla models, specifically Nissan LEAFs, showed poorer battery longevity compared to liquid-cooled systems, according to @qole.
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Veteran hybrid batteries can last many years with usable health.
@mark reported junking a 2012 Honda Insight battery that was still above 80% health.
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Anti-EV arguments are allegedly manufactured by the fossil fuel industry.
@chris contends that skepticism is orchestrated by vested interests rather than genuine doubt.
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The entire clean energy sector requires deep skepticism regarding official narratives.
@DavidM_yeg warns that positive news regarding solar, EVs, and nuclear energy should be viewed as industry shilling.
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EV batteries pose clear, serious physical dangers.
@PhilipCJames warns specifically about the physical risk of thermal runaway in lithium-ion batteries.
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Battery recycling waste volume is a necessary future planning issue.
@sleepy62 notes that the industry must anticipate and plan for the volume of 'black mass' from retired batteries.

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Perhaps those "skeptics", like the "climate skeptics" we have also endured over 20 years, weren't actually "skeptical" at all. They were just fossil fuel industry talking heads and plants, paid or brain washed or both to ensure Fossil Fuels were never without a cheerleader. "A new large‑scale UK dataset suggests EV batteries are holding up far better than many skeptics expected." #enfossilfuels #climateEmergency #bcpoli #canpoli https://electrek.co/2026/02/18/most-ev-batteries-outlast-their-cars-real-world-data-shows/
55 boosts · 5 favs · 8 replies · Apr 17, 2026
#canpoli#bcpoli#climateemergency#enfossilfuels
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Morning, all, as in so many spheres, China leads the World... Lithium+ batteries carry lots of energy, and can be dangerous if abused. It's not clear if end-of-life petrol/Diesel cars were also involved in this blaze, but it is clear that, while offering many benefits, EVs have to be treated with respect. Considering an electric bike but not sans taking precautions. #ClimateEmergency #Batteries #GlobalWarming #ACC #AGW #ElectricCars #RiskAssessment #ThermalRunaway https://youtu.be/4KqMcqVOh1c?si=c0AnEpvZntwGztR3
2 boosts · 0 favs · 0 replies · Apr 15, 2026
#climateemergency#batteries#globalwarming#acc#agw#electriccars
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Forward thinking Germany has developed a non polluting battery that runs on salt and air without lithium. The US is busy polluting with fossil fuels because the Epstein class wants every thing that's bad for the peasants. https://youtube.com/shorts/0aTaRCpSdHM?si=f2QJ94RWEWPb6NN0. #GreenEnergy #Environmental #Science #batterytech
1 boosts · 0 favs · 0 replies · Apr 18, 2026
#batterytech#science#environmental#greenenergy